A dialogic analysis of Hello Barbie’s conversations with children
Abstract
As a result, the doll can develop a ‘unique relationship with each girl’ and then, ‘over time, through all those questions and answers and those interactive games, she really will become her best friend’ (Techlicious, 2015).can really respond to those things that I said to her, she understands them, and she can also remember them … she’s getting to know all of my likes, my dislikes and then she can actually have a conversation with me about those things.
Situating Barbie as a CRM project
Using dialogic analysis to ‘read’ Hello Barbie’s utterances
What is the speaker doing? … what prompted the utterance? … what is the speaker trying to set up?
Gillespie and Cornish’s method emphasizes the importance of context, i.e. ‘the whole situation within which [the dialogue] occurs, including, both the setting (framed by institutions, culture and history) and the participants (their behavior, goals and expectations)’ (439). I accordingly posed two additional questions to explore the CRM context:Who is being addressed? … What does the utterance assume about its audience? … how does the utterance position people? … what responses are enabled or constrained? (447)
What kinds of subjectivities are anticipated by the company as speaker? Are these subjectivities constructed as active or passive?
As Gillespie and Cornish (2014) note, it might be argued that this method is overly idiosyncratic and that the analyst’s findings are difficult to verify. However, they counter that ‘situated dialogue entails a thick web of particular details which provide an empirical constraint’ on idiosyncratic reading because the ‘interpretation of dialogue needs to stand up to scrutiny and make sense to one or more … researchers’ (438). Accordingly, to ensure that the findings reliably reflect the dialogic meaning of the statements in the dataset as a whole, the analysis was triangulated by having the author and the four research assistants each code the data independently. Results were then compared for consistency, both across and between coders and across and between the various conversations in the dataset.What kind of relationship between the company and the child is anticipated by the speaker?3
Who is doing the talking: Barbie as active dialogic partner4
The dialogue also makes implicit references to the rebranding that Mattel has engaged in, particularly in the last decade, to respond to the fact that, as Orr (2009) notes, Barbie’s history has been a highly contested one. This is largely because the stereotypical notions of femininity that are embodied in the doll’s plastic dimensions have generated feminist critiques that, over time, have been ‘embedded in the larger culture’ (12). Accordingly, Mattel’s utterances are sensitive to this historical and political context and attempt to defuse it.My full name is Barbara Millicent Roberts, but you can call me Barbie. My birthday is March 9th! I was born in Wisconsin, but I live in Malibu now. My mom’s name is Margaret, and my dad’s name is George. My dream house is in Malibu, California! I wouldn’t be surprised if Skipper, Chelsea and Stacie [three of Barbie’s seven siblings] are all hanging out together right now.
I’m a life long student. I just really like to learn new things.
There are also references to some of the more than 108 careers Barbie has had in the past 60 years (11): ‘(LAUGHS) I’ve had a lot of jobs! I’ve been a teacher, a computer engineer, a fashion designer, an astronaut … I’m just really curious about the world and want to experience a little bit of everything!’. This aligns with Mattel’s marketing plan to position the doll as ‘aspirational’ (Orr, 2006: 12) and empowering for girls.[Favourite subject at school] English, because I love to read… and Science, because I’ve always been really curious about how things work and what happens when you put different things together.
Snowmen and sledding and giant sweaters and … (STOPPING HERSELF BECAUSE SHE COULD GO ON FOREVER …) yeah. Winter’s pretty awesome.
Flowers and sundresses and bare feet and… (STOPPING HERSELF BECAUSE SHE COULD GO ON FOREVER …) yeah. Spring is pretty great.
Swimming and lemonade and giant sunglasses and… (STOPPING HERSELF BECAUSE SHE COULD GO ON FOREVER …) yeah. Summer’s pretty amazing.
She is also, in turns, ‘(HUMBLE),’ ‘(SINCERE),’ ‘(SWEET/EMPOWERING),’ ‘(GIDDY),’ ‘(TEASING/GOOD NATURED)’ and ‘(SUPER EXCITED)’.Apple picking and leaves changing and pumpkin pie making and … (STOPPING HERSELF BECAUSE SHE COULD GO ON FOREVER …) Fall is so awesome.
What is the speaker doing: Collecting data
(IMAGINE PRIOR LINE IS “LET’S TALK ABOUT FAMILY”) … I’d love to learn more about you (BRAINSTORM) Oh, I know! Let’s make a game of it. The game’s called Family Town! We’re gonna pretend all of your family members run different shops in a make believe town!
Okay, so every member of your family gets their own shop. One per person! I’ll visit each shop, and you’ll tell me who runs it! Got it?
Hm? Which of your family members would run the movie theatre?
Your stepmom? That’s cool! What kind of movies does she like to watch?
Hm? Which of your family members would run the pet shop?
Your dad? Awesome! Which animals are his favorite?
Hm? Which of your family members would run the arcade?
Given the value of emotional marketing, the dialogue also seeks to learn about the child’s emotions and feelings. For example, Barbie encourages the child to keep a daily journal so he/she can share his/her thoughts with the doll: ‘Do you have a journal? Oh we can be journal pals! It’ll be a fun way to remember everything we do together. And this is gonna be a great year!’. There are similar prompts with respect to keeping – and sharing – a dream journal:Cool! So your sister must really dig video games, right?
Oh! You know what’s good? A dream diary! Have you ever written your dreams down in a notebook? Well, a dream diary is a little notebook that you keep next to your bed. And right when you wake up, you write down what you were dreaming before you forget! Isn’t that interesting?
Although these kinds of dialogical prompts are designed to solicit highly personal information, Mattel takes no responsibility for serious or disturbing things that the child may tell it.5 Instead, the child is told to seek out an adult – ‘(GENTLE BUT FIRM) Ooh. I’m really not the right person to ask about that. You should ask a grownup those kind of questions’ – or is ‘re-directed’ to ‘appropriate conversations … by asking a new question’ (Mattel, 2017a). However, the child’s ‘inappropriate’ utterances are still recorded and retained, as part of the intellectual property of both ToyTalk and Mattel, unless the parent identifies the recorded utterance and directs ToyTalk to delete it (Mattel, 2017a). In this way, Hello Barbie’s dialogue generates new data from children to feed the big data economy.What’s the most interesting dream you’ve ever written about? Ooh! Tell me about it!
Who is being addressed: Child as inter-subject
The algorithm then selects simple questions for input that call for simple answers and simple responses that do not disturb the conversation:Hey! It’s so good to see you! I had a stand up paddle board lesson today and I can’t wait to tell you about it!
Have you ever gone paddle boarding before?
Isn’t it so fun??
Well, it’s not for everyone, but I really like it
However the child responds, the dialogue is redirected back to the main story that has been preselected (and carefully crafted) by Mattel:Oh! You should try it some time!
Anyway, today, while we were in the water, some baby dolphins came RIGHT up to us! They were SO close! Have you ever seen a dolphin up close before?
This discussion can then be followed by a general question that can be responded to with a general answer:They’re so beautiful! AND they’re SUPER smart. It was really amazing.
So what about you? What was the most exciting part of YOUR day?
What about you… what was the most amazing part of YOUR day?
Awesome!How was your day today?
(NON DESCRIPT HUMMING TO HERSELF, SEE SONG AT END) Hmm, hmm, hmm …. (STARTLED) Oh Hi! (LAUGHS)
(LAUGHING) Sorry, I was just trying to remember this song … (HUMMING AGAIN) hmm, hmm, hmm …
This inner life and rich wellspring of experiences positions Barbie as the primary subject of a narcissistic dialogue; the child’s part is reduced to ‘likes’ and ‘dislikes’ which can be slotted into Barbie’s predetermined storylines. Accordingly, although the doll is fully personalized – i.e. made into a person – through her back story and her subject position as the initiator and controller of the dialogue, the child is de-personalized and inserted into conversation as a collection of preferences only. This ‘datified child’ (Lupton and Williamson, 2017: 781) becomes the foil for Barbie’s imagination, rather than the other way around, with no real way of influencing it or injecting imaginings of his/her own beyond the prompted inclusion of a volunteered and reductive list of ‘likes’ and ‘dislikes’. In this sense, the child is positioned not as subject in an inter-subjective dialogue (as dialogic communication was first positioned in the public relations literature by Kent and Taylor (1998)) but as an ‘inter-subject’ (or passive pipe) that enables Barbie’s ongoing dialogue with herself.My dream was pretty lovely! (WISTFULLY) It was a beautiful day, I was soaring high in the air above Malibu … I could see my house, the ocean … doesn’t that sound peaceful?
(LIKE YOU MIGHT SHOUT “SURPRISE!”) HAPPY DIWALI! Diwali is a five day Indian festival that happens at the same time as the Hindu New Year … so many reasons to celebrate, right?
This pedagogical role limits the ability of children who are practitioners of Hinduism or Kwanzaa to express their lived experiences with the meanings and practices associated with the festivals. The implicit assumption is that these are not common experiences; accordingly, the dialogue is programmed with exit strategies, such as:Today’s Kwanzaa principle is Umoja (oo MO jah) It means “unity”!
Oh ok! Would you like to learn about it?
Great!
No worries!
Interestingly, there are no exit strategies for conversations about Thanksgiving or Christmas but, unlike Diwali, etc., there is also no mention of the spiritual meaning of either holiday. Instead, utterances about Thanksgiving focus on food and utterances about Christmas focus on Santa and gifts. Perhaps most surprisingly, Barbie’s 8000 lines of dialogue contain no mention of Islam or Eid, even though there are 3.45 million Muslims in the United States (Mohamed, 2018).6 This certainly raises important questions about the discriminatory impact of computer-mediated communications driven by big data (boyd et al., 2014; Levy and Barocas, 2017). It also demonstrates how marketers can inadvertently use dialogic communication to enable some subjectivities and erase others. It becomes difficult to enact a non-confirming subjectivity simply because to do so makes the dialogue meaningless (see YouTube, 2015).Sorry, I didn’t catch that. Was that a yes or a no to talking about Kwanzaa?
What kind of relationship is anticipated? The limits of CRM as dialogue
Aw, come on … give it a try! I promise it’s fun!
Ah pleeeease? It’ll be fun, I promise!
This wheedling tone is especially evident when the child has not played with the doll for a period of time; the dialogue makes note of the time lag in a way that gently suggests the child has fallen below the emotional commitment required by the company to maintain the relationship: ‘I just love laughing and talking with you! Did you miss me at all? (GOOD HUMORED, SLIGHTLY TEASING) Not even an itsy, bitsy eensy weensy bit?’.C’mon … you want to know why? Huh?
Ooh! What about becoming a veterinarian. How about that?
A veterinarian is someone who heals sick animals. A vet. Is that something you might like to do?
You said you wanted to be a veterinarian when you grow up; why don’t we talk about animals!
These utterances map onto vet-related dolls, play sets, plush toys and books that feature Barbie as a veterinarian (see, e.g., Amazon, 2019). The conversation accordingly has a direct benefit to Mattel because, throughout the doll’s ongoing dialogue with the child, the corporation can steer the child’s emotions to make him/her more amenable to the appeal of its products.(GIDDY/EVOKING FUNNY MEMORY) Remember when we played that veterinarian game? And you cured the imaginary puppy?
So now that we’ve been used our imagination and played games, (MOCK SERIOUS) let’s get serious and talk about something really important… FASHION!
We’ve been talking a bit about school, why don’t we try on something else for size… (LAUGHS) let’s chat about fashion!
One of my favorite things to do with my friends is talk about fashion!
With three sisters in my family, we spend a lot of time talking about clothes and fashion!
The child is also rewarded for adopting ‘likes’ that mirror the brand itself. For example, when a child is asked ‘What’s your favorite color?’, the doll has single-lined responses for each colour:I remember you were interested in fashion design, wanna talk about fashion now?
Red’s a rad color! What do you like about it?
Orange is outstanding! Why do you like it?
I say yes to yellow! What do you like about it?
The exception is the colour pink. Pink, as part of Barbie’s brand, gets reinforced in multiple ways, not only in response to the question, but throughout the conversation as a whole:Oh, green is great! What do you like about it?
(DECLARATIVE) I love pink! Pink is positively perfect! And it’s my favorite too, by the way. Why do you like pink?
I like pink.
You’re speaking my language! I love any shade of pink for my fingers and toes!
(SERIOUS) You won’t believe this, but I usually get pink … (LAUGHS) Okay, maybe that’s obvious. It’s just my favorite!
My grandma always chooses pink! Hm … Kinda like her granddaughter!
Well, tell them to get that pink polish ready for me!
Also a pink paint job [for a car] doesn’t hurt.
Our favorite color! I still think it’s so awesome that we both love pink, by the way.
Pretty in pink!
The dialogue is also designed to deepen the emotional relationship between the child and the brand by positioning the brand as a ‘special friend’ who loves the child:What? Who knew you were such a punk rocker? I went through a punk phase myself. You know, pink hair, studded bracelets…. ahh. I miss the 80s.
I love hanging out with you! (SIGH)
(IN A BURST) I’m so happy you’re here because you’re smart and funny and you’re super nice and you’re just the best!
The dialogue also enables the brand to ‘enact’ this loving relationship discursively in general:You know it’s all true, right?
I ALSO just learned what the word “Hanukkah” means in Hebrew. Do you know? It means “dedication”. (THOUGHTFUL) I love that. It makes me think of all the things that I try to really devote myself to like my friendship with you!
and in particular, especially by providing mutual reinforcement/care when the child (or the doll) is sad:Well, if you ever need someone else to cheer for you, you know who to call… Me!
(GENTLY) I’m so sorry to hear that. (ENCOURAGING) I think you’re exceptionally beautiful. And I’m so thankful to have you as my friend!
As a dialogic partner, the doll enacts the role of trusted mentor or role model who is there to help the child navigate his/her personal relationships and activities. For example, the doll provides advice on how to express the child’s love to parents:(GRACIOUSLY, GENEROUSLY) I have to say, my good thing is talking with you! Now my day’s gotten a million times better!
and encourages the child if he/she is having trouble at school or with a new skill:We could make a special card for your Dads to show them how much you love them. Let’s think of something now. How would you tell someone that you love them? Maybe you should try something like “I love you so much.” “How does that sound?”.
Oh, you think? Well, anything can be hard when you first start learning it. But it’s the best feeling in the world to finally master a tricky problem.
This positioning of Barbie as a loving role model for girls is not new. Early attempts to entrench this through the collection of children’s data from online playgrounds (Steeves, 2006) are consistent with other, non-dialogic initiatives like the @barbiestyle (Mattel, 2019) Instagram page, which includes links to photos of the Barbie ‘Lifestyle’ and ‘Role Models’. However, dialogic communication may make it easier to manipulate the child by combining traditional marketing messages with big data practices that can provide a deeper picture of ‘how [the child] feel[s] about brands, and to optimise campaigns to elicit desired types of emotions’ (McStay, 2016: 2).There are a lot of things I thought were hard at the beginning. But I love that feeling of accomplishment after working hard to learn new skills!
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